Why and how to reduce ground levels
By: admin | Posted on: May 23, 2020
You’ve obviously been given some information from perhaps a Chartered Surveyor that has carried a Homebuyers survey, or perhaps another kind of building survey, and are seeking advice from the internet. Well hopefully this will give you an idea of what is needed to help stop/control the rising damp issues you have.
Ideally external ground levels where possible should be lower than the damp proof course (dpc) by around 150mm / 6″). This will help to prevent rainwater splashing over the dpc (damp proof course), especially when there is heavy wind driven rain. If a damp poof course isn’t present it will also still help keep the base of the wall dry, so is still necessary. By lowering the ground levels to beneath the damp proof course, this can also stop bridging of the damp proof course, ensuring that the damp proof course performs as to be expected (to stop rising damp). Also by lowering the external ground levels you will also control the height of rise, of any rising damp. This will create evaporation at the base of the wall at lower level, as you’ve simply stopped giving the rising damp moisture to gain in height. Obviously the height of rise depends on many things but basic things like how wet the ground is, and the suction from the wall. But nonetheless this will massively help the issue, and sometimes completely solve/control the rising damp issue.
A common problem I often come across is that by lowering the ground levels doesn’t fix the issue. What I mean by this is the perception of that there is still a problem visibly internally to the plaster as it looks like it’s damp still. This occurs because the damp patch isn’t damp because of capillary moisture (rising damp) any more, it’s still damp because hygroscopic salts like nitrates and chlorides (hygroscopic moisture) are present in the plaster, and are absorbing moisture from the internal atmosphere. Sometimes you can also get the appearance that it is dry one day, perhaps on a warm sunny day in the summer when the humidity is lower, or it appears again when its humid, because the damp becomes more visible when the humidity is higher because it is hygroscopic. If this is the case the wall would have been contaminated by hygroscopic salts for a considerable time previously. One way to eliminate this is to take plaster/mortar samples following the guidance in BRE DIGEST 245, as this is the only quantitative way to differentiate between hygroscopic and capillary moisture. This is a service we offer to all of our clients as part of our damp consultancy service.
Again often people have been getting quotes for diggers, and skips to carry out mass ground excavation, when rarely is this actually necessary. I’ve been carrying out this sympathetic damp repair now for many years along with quantitative moisture analysis (BRE DIGEST 245), and had brilliant results every time in reducing the moisture at the base of the walls by cutting out a channel around 300mm wide, and 150mm below the damp proof course, or internal floor level. One thing I will say is you should seek advice from a structural engineer, or a competent qualified builder, to make sure you don’t compromise the structural integrity of the building by digging below the foundations. You might also need some cutting equipment, with dust suppression, and breakers to get through the concrete/path, and if this this is the case you will need an inspection kit to check for electrics, gas, water pipes etc. This is a service we offer to all of our clients using the Ridgid SR20 detection equipment. The image below shows The Ridgid SR20 and a CCTV drain camera.
Once you’ve marked out the dimensions of the ground you need to lower, you can follow rough guidance from the drawing below.
Please remember roughly a wall takes around 1″ per month to dry down, so if you have a thick old wall this will take a considerable time to dry down. If you need things to happen more quickly we can also carry out tented desiccant drying of the walls in question. This might be necessary if you don’t have time on your hands and you need to get a project finished in time.
How much does it cost to lower high ground levels? This can vary so much depending on access, the length of the area that needs lowering, whether its concrete or just earth that needs digging out, skips etc. I can only price a job once I know all of the above really, and prices will also vary for lowering ground levels by different firms based on many things. Another point that is always worth mentioning is that it is highly likely in most cases you will need some lime pointing carried out at the base of the wall. This is because once the ground levels have been reduced, years of damp, freeze and thaw have damaged the original lime, and it is often like mud once you scrape a mortar bed. Depending on the age of the property we would normally use a lime putty pointing mix, as this will allow more evaporation than a cement based one, or an NHL lime based products. Sometimes its also necessary as a minimum to remove any modern masonry paint at the base of the wall also, as this will increase evaporation also.
If you need any advice drop us an email, or phone the office please.
Please click the on the video below of me explaining about how to lower high ground levels, to try and control rising damp issues.
Thanks for spending the time for putting together something so helpful on this subject. Unfortunately as we’re based in Ireland and wouldn’t be a job you could carry out. If we lived near you I would prefer to use you for your experience and specialist detection equipment. I think we may have to have plaster replaced like you’ve explained. Could we post samples to you, as. I’m sure I’ve read on the website somewhere we can?
Hi David,
Thanks for the kind comments. Please give me a ring on 01225 769215 and we can discuss this 🙂
I like that you mention the need for removing the low level masonry paint or plinth and replace with Lime putty or NHL. This is almost always the case up here in London. It’s a shame when someone takes the trouble to lower the ground levels, only to cover the low level masonry with a cement plinth!! Nice blog post.
Thanks Oliver. I only use lime putty, when I carry out repointing works really. I can only presume some people add a plinth is because of perhaps damaged bricks….doesn’t really make sense what anybody would add one 🙂
This is great advice. We have a damp issue in our property in Frome Somerset. If I pay you for a damp survey could you pop out and get our issues rectified? We’ve had mixed opinions of why it’s damp, and we really need professional advice. After reading your blog posts I think we will also benefit from a CCTV drain survey. Can this all be incorporated into the same survey please?
Hi Ryan,
This is something we can help you with. Please email me any questions at enquiries@completepreservation.co.uk
This is great read Complete Preservation on what’s seems a sensible approach to help alleviate rising damp. Would you come to Chippenham to carry out a damp survey along with this kind of work please?
Hi Mr Pearce,
Thanks for the kind comments! Yes I would. Please email enquiries@completepreservation.co.uk and we can discuss in more detail.
We do cover Chippenham for damp surveys. Please ring the office or email enquiries@complete preservation.co.uk and I will ring you to discuss.
I’m very pleased to have found this blog post. I have subscribed to you YouTube channel as it has taught me so much about damp in my property. I really like the way you explain your approach and the basic things you check. I’m going to scrape some of the mud back over Xmas, and see what I’m up against!
Thanks again
Thanks Henry.
Glad you like the videos, and if they help you even better 🙂
Very simple approach to fixing damp issues. How successful would you think this would be a very thick stone wall?
Thanks
Ryan
From the works and monitoring I have carried out over the years it has been very successful. A thick stone wall can take a few years though. I will do a post on the data regarding the wall drying down, along with quantitative data analysis following BRE DIGEST 245 (gravimetrics).
We spent over 30k getting our property damp proofed before we moved in as per our mortgage agreement.
The paint and plaster is coming away after just under 2 years.
The ground levels are high from what you have shown, I think this might be a reason the damp proofing treatment hasn’t worked. Concerns that the drains could also be a cause as these have always been blocking since we moved in. Not sure if the back drain is a soakaway.
The damp expert didn’t check the drains, so could this be the cause to the failure?
Kind regards
Mike