Calcium carbide meter/speedy meter test
By: admin | Posted on: June 1, 2020
It is presumed by the way of the self proclaimed damp experts that the calcium carbide meter, or also referred to as the speedy meter, is in fact the most reliable form of moisture measurement when it comes to identification of rising damp. Unfortunately most don’t really understand the limitations of the damp measuring instruments, and don’t follow the guidance as per BRE DG245, where part of the sample should be put aside for the hygroscopicity determination.
I own, and have used a calcium carbide meter on many occasions, and in my opinion when measuring moisture, when there is the potential for rising damp and hygroscopic salts this instrument can be massively misleading. I personally only use this when inspecting flood damaged buildings that are more of a modern construction that would unlikely to be contaminated from hygroscopic salts, from a genuine long term rising damp. The reason for this is because you can’t determine what is actually going on regarding the amount of moisture, and giving the correct advice to fix the issues.
Example explanations
The below picture shows the total moisture content of a calcium carbide meter reading of a sample removed from the wall, and placed inside the speedy meter. As you can see it gives a total moisture content of 16 %. The total moisture content (16 %), is made up of the capillary moisture, and the hygroscopic moisture. The speedy meter doesn’t give a figure for these separate amounts, which is the misleading part.
The below picture shows an example of the total moisture content broken down into the capillary moisture, and the hygroscopic moisture.
The below picture shows the same total moisture content as in the above picture, with a capillary moisture content of 1 %, and a hygroscopic moisture content of 15 %….. completely different.
The above images explain the total moisture content, and show that it is impossible for interpreting different moisture content results, without understanding the capillary moisture content, and hygroscopic moisture content on site.
Lets now look at another example with some more guidance of why it is so important to differentiate between capillary moisture and hygroscopic moisture. This is from one of my recent surveys where a traditional solid wall property with no physical damp proof course installed has been damp proofed because it was presumed the property had genuine rising damp and needed a new damp proof course. During this survey I removed samples of plaster/mortar for analysis, and worked out the exact amounts of moisture using the gravimetric laboratory methodology. You can see in my graph below the total moisture content has been split up, to include the capillary and hygroscopic moisture content.
What does this graph show? This is the most important part…. what it shows here, is that there is a very high amount of capillary moisture content, and a low level of hygroscopic moisture content. This is not what you would see on a genuine long term rising damp issue, as you would normally see more of a distinguished hygroscopic salt band. This property actually had issues with drains that I picked up with our CCTV drain survey. The samples were also chemically tested for nitrates and chlorides (hygroscopic salts), and none of any significance were present. All of the data points to drainage issues or possible leaks, and this couldn’t be observed from an onsite calcium carbide meter test. This property needs to be dried down with a Corroventa desiccant tented drying equipment, and the drain issues rectified.
The below graph is something I see often where a physical damp proof course has been installed from new when a property was originally built. The total moisture content is 5%, and so is the hygroscopic moisture content, and the capillary moisture content is 0 %. How could you give suitable advice to your client if you couldn’t differentiate these moisture contents?
What this actually shows is that there is no capillary moisture. Capillary moisture content, is only present if there is a source of water/free moisture such as rising dampness. The amount of capillary moisture content will depend on the permeability, porosity and severity of the water ingress. The absence of capillary moisture indicates that a material is ‘dry’, that is not subject to water ingress from any source. This means normally that the damp proof course is most likely to be bridged, by plaster, debris in the cavity, or perhaps the floor screed. By also chemically testing the mortar samples for nitrates and chlorides, we can prove if these are present. If these are present as in this case, the repair was to remove the bridging issue, along with a suitable plaster repair.
Capillary moisture / Free moisture
The second component is the free moisture content which is only present if there is a source of water ingress such as rain penetration, rising dampness. The amount of free moisture will depend on the permeability, porosity and severity of the water ingress. The absence of free moisture indicates that a material is ‘dry’, that is not subject to water ingress from any source.
Ground water salts:
Not only is the distribution of moisture required, we also need to obtain details of past activity of rising dampness, and this can be obtained from the presence and distribution of ground water salts, basically chlorides and nitrates. Where a long term rising damp complex has existed, these salts will always mark the maximum height to which water has risen, and tend to form a concentration (‘salt band’) around the maximum height of rise. I often find on very old properties that have been subjected to long term rising damp over many years, sometimes two distinguished salt bands. Thus, even if water ceases to rise the salts will still remain and ‘mark’ the maximum height once reached. It is the relationship between the distribution of moisture and salts that is the basis of the investigation.
The information regarding speedy meter testing of moisture and gravimetrics has been published and documented by Building Research Establishment (BRE) for many years. The earliest copy I have is the TIL 29 version which was revised in April 1977, and the latest version is BRE DIGEST 245, also known as BRE DG 245. The latest version of this document is from 2007.
Very important extract below from DG 245 2007 edition
Experience has shown that some building materials possess an HMC of up to 5% even without the introduction of salts from external sources. Although only a rough indicator, the 5% threshold does represent a reasonable general guide to whether or not some kind of remedial treatment is needed. This emphasises the importance of the difference between the HMC and MC measured on samples. It can also be useful to establish the MC and HMC of wallpaper, plaster and render, although drying plaster above 35 ยฐC will drive off hydration water bound within the plaster and must be avoided. The figure of 5% at the base of the wall (the wall/floor junction) can be taken as an approximate guide to the presence of rising damp. However, even at this low level of moisture there can be a risk of damage to finishes and rot to any timber that may be in contact with the wall.
If you like this kind of geeky facts on damp, you might like this one that has some screen shots from the British Standards www.completepreservation.co.uk/rising-damp/http://www.completepreservation.co.uk/rising-damp/
This is the best article I have read explaining about the speedy meter. As a semi retired surveyor that often got involved with the odd damp issues this has given me a greater understanding. Why do you think surveyors tend to rely on the speedy meter?
Thanks Ray. Im not exactly sure, but I do think for many years the carbide meter has been thought to be the best method for measuring moisture.
|Good article, I do Expert Witness work for housing disrepair cases and surveyors often rely on “Speedy” tests to state there is no damp, despite an indication it is present in plaster and skirtings. This often misses the issue with hygroscopic salts. Many of the properties I inspect have solid concrete floors and very shallow skirtings with issues often caused by plaster in contact with the floor, or cavities breached through poor CWI installation or debris
Thanks for your kind comment Iain. As you know there is so much more to a damp investigation that using any kind of meter…. I find especially with cavity construction multiple issues are quite common. I’m editing a video on this at the moment… stay tuned ๐
What’s the minimum reading on the meter to show there is TRUE rising damp please Ray?
Andy
Hi Andy, you need to take a moisture profile first if all really. Then you will need to separate the hygroscopic and capillary moisture, which is something a speedy meter can’t do…. see the graph where I talk about this.
Informative article, totall๏ฝ what I needed.
I have just spent a fortune on a damp survey, where a carbide meter was used to test damp in walls. Im concerned now when reading this, as this explains that this isn’t right? What damp measurements should would be looking out for if issues are present?
Your YouTube videos are fantastic by the way.
Hi louise, I would wait and see what the surveyor puts in his report. Readings can get hugely skewed by salts, thats why I really only use them when im drying a new build property down as no hygroscopic salts will be present in the new masonry. If you have any concerns give me a shout. Thanks for the kind comments ๐
I had an independent damp survey and nothing was mentioned about bre digest 245, or bs 6576. No mention of carbide damp meter tests, or damp plaster samples. Should this have been in my damp survey report?
Hi Bryan, unfortunately just because you paid for an independent damp survey it doesn’t mean they follow best practice. It is very unusual to see thorough damp investigations to include CCTV drain surveys also. If you have concerns it would be prudent to speak to your surveyor, because they might have a reasonable explanation for it. Best of luck with it all anyway
This is a really good explanation of what to expect from a moisture measurement device/technique.
I would add that when evaluating concrete, it gets increasingly complicated since the alkaline salts in concrete tend to be extremely hygroscopic and will actually “compete” with other salts (such as calcium carbide) and may inhibit moisture pick-up. This was found where a calcium chloride desiccant was inhibited from free moisture pick-up where a substantial amount of sodium hydroxide was present. Sodium hydroxide has a very low critical humidity threshold, which is good area in which to investigate potential issues with concrete.
Hi Bob, thanks for the kind comments. Quantitative moisture analysis using gravimetrics is what is needed in my line of work where the correct diagnosis has to be correct first time. I’ve personally never seen what you have explained and neither has my colleague who has been sampling for 40 plus years. I’ve drilled hundreds of concrete floors and never found extreme hygroscopic salts. Concrete floors rarely have much of a salting issues compared to walls. If calcium carbide was present in floors they would literally blow up… not sure what you mean by this bud!
I’ve just had a level 3 building survey completed on a property im about to purchase. I was told I need to get a speedy test to the walls to confirm rising damp by the surveyor. On reading this article it has made me confused.
I apologise as im not sure this is what I need now! Can you carry out a damp survey, and confirm any damp issues I have please?
Hi Sandra,
It’s not unusual about a speedy meter test to be fair.
Send an email with all your details to enquiries@completepreservation.co.uk and I will call you to discuss.
So I have paid for an independent damp assessment and a carbide damp meter was used. A hole was drilled above the skirting in one room. A salt test was done in two pots.
Is this correct, of not please?
Single samples are not really the best methodology for accurate damp diagnosis. Without knowing your instruction etc, I can’t really comment. Read the above blog post, as it does go through what is best practice etc.