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Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings. Principles and competencies joint position statement

By: admin | Posted on: October 14, 2022

Joint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022

Finally after the first joint draft methodology was published in 2019, this was launched at the International Property Care Conference.

What is really great is that finally everybody is talking, and this joint position statement will hopefully help everybody progress in offering more detailed damp investigations/diagnosis, and the consumer should receive better advice in regards to damp issues, and advice on any repairs where necessary.

See my thoughts at the end, and some images of the conference.

Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings. Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation

My thoughts

Personally from experience I still think it will still be a struggle to get the consumer to pay for a thorough damp investigation, that eliminates everything that could be causing excess moisture to the property. The next issue is when a property is being sold, the vendor will still not allow an invasive or disruptive damp investigation to take place……This then makes it very difficult to determine the cause and work out the costs of any repairs.

If you need a damp investigation this and other British Standards, guidance notes make it clear that a thorough investigation needs to take place eliminating potential issues before coming a conclusion, and offering damp repair advice.

I personally like the below part which is from the British Standard BS 6576:2005. All other possible causes of damp conditions should be located.

Particular attention should be paid to:
a) condensation;
b) lateral penetration associated with changes of floor/ground level;
c) leaks from roofs, gutters and downpipes;
d) faulty drains;
e) internal plumbing leaks;
f) water penetration through external walls;
g) water penetration around window frames and doors;
h) mortar droppings or debris in cavity walls;
i) history of flooding.

The above is really what is to be expected from an averagely competent damp specialist to find the root cause of damp. Once the defects/issues have been found, really only then can a specification of repair be offered. Personally I only offer invasive damp investigations so I can be sure that I can find the root cause when carrying out the initial survey, and then anything can be clarified using in house gravimetric analysis, and hygroscopic salt analysis. Make sure if you have been offered a damp survey, you get in writing exactly what they will and won’t be doing, so you know what you will be getting for your money. It is common practice for people to pay for a damp survey, only to find out afterwards that its a non invasive/disruptive type, and in the report they receive it then offers an invasive/disruptive survey and any sampling subject to additional costs, and then recommends further CCTV drain surveys, and leak detection surveys. These are the types of cheap worthless surveys that offer no diagnosis, and not recommended in the Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings.

Here are some images from the conference in regards to my presentation.

Ground penetrating radar  (GPR) makes the invisible visible, and can be used to locate below ground drainage, services, hidden basements, cellars, wells, culverts etcInvestigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
Ground penetrating radar (GPR) makes the invisible visible, and can be used to locate below ground drainage, services, hidden basements, cellars, wells, culverts etc
Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
penetrating radar  (GPR) makes the invisible visible, and can be used to locate below ground drainage, services, hidden basements, cellars, wells, culverts etc
This image shows underground culvert drainage that was found using ground penetrating radar
This image shows underground wells that can be found using ground penetrating radarInvestigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings Principles and competencies joint position statementJoint position statement, 1st edition, September 2022, 1st edition, September 2022. RICS, Historic England, PCA, CADW, SPAB, Historic Environment Scotland, institute of historic building conservation
This image shows underground wells that can be found using ground penetrating radar, and explaining about why wells in some cases can cause damp issues
This image shows how ground penetrating radar can be used to find drainage that access can't be gained because of blockages, and using ground penetrating radar I can find where this goes to facilitate repair works, without digging up drives or floors etc. This is particularly useful when trying to work out where soakaways go, as it is quite common when new drives get installed below ground drainage gets damaged, and become blocked and a CCTV drain survey can't gain access
This image shows how ground penetrating radar can be used to find drainage, that access can’t be gained because of blockages, and using ground penetrating radar I can find where this goes to facilitate repair works, without digging up drives or floors etc. This is particularly useful when trying to work out where soakaways go, as it is quite common when new drives get installed below ground drainage gets damaged, and become blocked and a CCTV drain survey can’t gain access


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    8 thoughts on “Investigation of moisture and its effects on traditional buildings. Principles and competencies joint position statement”

    1. Belinda says:
      4th November 2022 at 5:31 pm

      Hi Ross this is they type of survey that I need. After unfortunately paying a large fee to an independent surveyor, none of the stuff mentioned by the rics document has been done. Do you actually cover Somerset?

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      1. admin says:
        4th November 2022 at 5:35 pm

        Hi Belinda, that’s not good. Drop me an email and we can discuss a survey enquiries@completpreservation.co.uk

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    2. Kirsty says:
      6th November 2022 at 9:49 am

      If this has been so well advertised, I’m wondering why my level 3 building survey never mentioned this when my damp problem was mentioned.

      Would you be interested in carrying out a damp survey, and a drain survey please in hampshire?

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      1. admin says:
        6th November 2022 at 11:40 am

        To be fair to the surveyor they haven’t got to mention it. its really for them to follow the guidance in it. Unfortunately with a pre purchased damp survey, it will be an opinion based on a damp meter and observations as they have no choice simply because opening up is rarely allowed. This is when its critical because clients only really want to exchange when the y know the costs involved. I can do damp and a drain survey for you 🙂

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    3. Janet says:
      20th November 2022 at 9:45 pm

      Should a RICS level 3 survey cover damp diagnosis?

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      1. admin says:
        22nd November 2022 at 10:21 pm

        You will most likely find most competent level 3 surveyors will offer some form of damp diagnosis. this might be limited, which is to be expected as it is a pre purchase survey and non invasive. The enquiries I get after something like this has been carried out is really about pricing any repairs. hope this helps 🙂

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    4. Stella Right says:
      24th November 2022 at 2:45 pm

      Our RICS level 2 structural hasn’t mentioned this document. He has mentioned about damp, but not diagnosed the issues. On his website he claims to be a damp surveyor, yet told me to seek advice from a PCA surveyor.
      Can you offer and advice please?

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      1. admin says:
        26th November 2022 at 7:22 pm

        Be best you contact the original surveyor and ask specific questions. I wouldn’t expect them to mention this exactly, and unfortunately a pre purchase survey will never give accurate damp diagnosis. Most surveyors will pass on to PCA surveyors unless level 3. hope this helps 🙂

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