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Rising damp & the facts you need to know

By: admin | Posted on: August 13, 2019

This is some very basic stuff showing diagrams that visually explain damp issues that just drilling a new damp proof will not solve. It is well documented in BRE Digest 245, British Standard BS 6576, British Standard BS 5250, THAT YOU HAVE TO FIND THE CAUSE OF THE RISING DAMP, ALONG WITH CORRECT DIAGNOSIS BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A REPAIR.

I have massive issues with Estate Agents that offer their damp expert to carry out a free pre purchase damp and timber survey, and basically give a quote to do the cheapest job. The quote is referred to as a ‘report’ and is presumed to be worth something along with the Mickey mouse guarantee. These are often a couple of pages, with no mention of any possible defects or the actual cause of the damp. These are worthless, and the works always mask the visible defects, and subsequent damp issues normally occur.

If you have a property that is cavity construction it is essential that you have to eliminate some of the possible causes of rising damp. It is unlikely that the physical damp proof course has failed, or broken down. If you have a solid wall property, these below pictures can also be relevant in some cases especially if there is a physical damp proof course, or a chemical damp proof course has been installed.

The below picture shows a basic issue, this being debris in the cavity that has bridged the damp proof course.

BRIDGED DAMP PROOF COURSE.BRE DIGEST 245 PDF. BRE DG 245 PDF

The below shows bridging of the damp proof course by the path.

BRIDGED DAMP PROOF COURSE

The below shows bridging of the damp proof course by the plaster.

The below shows bridging of the damp proof course by the external render.

The below shows bridging over the damp proof course by mortar pointing.

BRE DIGEST 245 PDF. BRE DG 245 PDF

The below shows bridging of the damp proof course by the screed.

Some facts…. lots of damp proofing experts claim to work to BS 6576:2005 (This is the British Standard). BS 6576:2005 Code of practice for diagnosis of rising damp in walls of buildings and installation of chemical damp-proof courses. MOST OF THEM DONT, please read the below and read some facts published in the British Standard.

BRE DIGEST 245 PDF. BRE DG 245 PDF
BRE DIGEST 245 PDF. BRE DG 245 PDF

I have highlighted NOTE 2 BELOW.… it clearly states that a damp meter gives a qualitative reading. Gravimetric tests give more detail, this will tell you exactly what is going on. Chemical tests, this is a speedy meter or a carbide meter will only show a total moisture content. Gravimetrics differentiate between hygroscopic and free moisture contents….. this is the only way we carry out our surveys.

BRE DIGEST 245 PDF. BRE DG 245 PDF

Please see the facts in BS 5250 regarding rising damp.

BRE DIGEST 245 PDF. BRE DG 245 PDF

BS 5250 also nearly states that the gravimetric method gives the most reliable results.

BRE Digest 245 states the below.

Again BRE Digest 245 recommends that  plaster/mortar samples are taken to determine what is exactly going on.

What do you do if you have a damp issue? A damp survey should be more an investigation, and you should expect to pay for it. If your damp surveyor doesn’t eliminate some very basic issues you will get a quote for a new damp proof course.

Damp meters are brilliant but they beep even when the wall is dry, if some hygroscopic salts are present, and they can’t tell you if the wall is damp by free moisture or hygroscopic salts.

All of the British Standards recommend that gravimetrics should be used to determine what is actually going on.

If you need advice regarding a damp survey, please give us a shout.

Top tip

You need to ask your damp surveyor for an invasive damp survey where as a minimum a carbide meter is used, or ideally gravimetric sampling. Most damp surveyors will only offer non invasive damp surveys, which is then an opinion not based on any data in regards to the moisture content of the wall. Drains, leaking pipes, bridging of the damp proof course are common defects that need eliminating as per the above screenshots in the British Standards. These will need to be inspected. Have a look at some interesting videos in the video gallery section of the website.

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8 thoughts on “Rising damp & the facts you need to know”

  1. Smithy says:
    2nd October 2019 at 8:03 pm

    We were recently recommended a damp surveyor by our Estate Agent in Westbury Wiltshire. They gave us a free survey through them, and recommended damp proofing works, which don’t seem to have worked as the walls are still damp. I know we have been stitched up by the Estate Agents who probably took a commission from this job, as the ‘expert’ they recommended never carried out this type of survey before we purchased the property, and before the damp proofing works started. I would really appreciate it if we could get an idea of survey costs to finally get a thorough damp investigation please. I have filled out the contact form with my email for you to contact us please.

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    1. admin says:
      2nd October 2019 at 8:11 pm

      Hi,

      I find this can be a common issue for agents that wish to try and protect the sell of the property, and offer surveys from unqualified surveyors for free. We’ve had 2 like this over the last couple of months where the rising damp issue was actually caused by leaking mains water pipe. None of the damp proofing works carried out were actually needed, and the guarantee is actually worthless. I’ve sent you an email, but I would like to have a verbal chat to discuss a few things so I can give you an exact cost for the survey.

      Reply
  2. Roger says:
    11th January 2020 at 5:04 pm

    Hi,
    We’ve recently had some rising damp treatment carried out by two different local damp specialists and there is still issues with damp. I’ve lifted a vinyl floor covering in one of the rooms and the floor is saturated from a possible leak. The boiler has lost pressure ever so slightly. Could we claim against the previous surveyors that have specified the works without carrying out an investigation to the cause?
    Thanks
    Rog

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    1. admin says:
      11th January 2020 at 5:10 pm

      Hi Roger,

      It is difficult to say without actually carrying out a survey and proving that works weren’t necessary. Was any form of leak detection carried out, or samples removed for lab analysis to check the amount of moisture, and if any hygroscopic salts present? This should be carried out following BRE DIGEST 245.

      Reply
  3. Sue says:
    1st March 2020 at 9:39 pm

    A damp proofing specialist in Trowbridge has completely wrecked our house. the walls are still wet and damp, and the plastering finish isn’t great either. Can you help with identifying why we still have damp issues please?

    Reply
    1. admin says:
      2nd March 2020 at 9:14 pm

      Hi Sue.

      This is something we can help you with. Please could you phone the office on 01225 769215.

      Reply
  4. Mr Daws says:
    18th October 2020 at 7:17 am

    I’ve sent this link to numerous damp proofing specialists in Somerset, and none offer this type of survey. I suppose I should feel fortunate as I now know I’ve potentially saved myself from a damp disaster. Do you cover Somerset?

    Reply
    1. admin says:
      12th November 2020 at 5:52 am

      Hi Mr Daws,

      We do cover Somerset. Please email the office with your details and I will ring you to discuss.

      Reply

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